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Retranscription des paroles de la vidéo: welcome to beekeeping today podcast presented by be cultured beekeeping today podcast is your source for beekeeping news information and entertainment i’m jeff aunt and i’m kim flatham hey jeff and kim today’s sponsor is global patties they’re a family operated business that manufactures protein supplement patties for honeybees it’s a good time to think about honeybee nutrition feeding your hive’s protein supplement patties will ensure that they produce strong and healthy colonies by increasing brood production and overall honey flow now is a great time to consider what type of patty is right for your area and your honeybees global offers a variety of standard patties as well as custom patties to meet your needs no matter where you are global is ready to serve you out of their manufacturing plants in airdrie alberta and in butte montana or from distribution depots across the continent visit them today at w www.globalpaddies.com you bet we want to thank bee culture magazine for continuing their presenting sponsorship of this episode bee culture has been the magazine for american beekeeping since 1873. subscribe to bee culture today and while you’re there check out bee culture’s beekeeping your first three years a quarterly and magazine for beginning beekeepers we also want to thank two million blossoms as sponsor of this episode two million blossoms is a new quarterly magazine dedicated protecting all pollinator insects both wild and managed before they disappear the magazine is full of beautiful photos and informative articles you can learn more on our season 2 episode 9 podcast with editor kristen traynor and from visiting www and that is with a number two i almost didn’t get through that kim hey it looks like spring has finally got here to the northern latitudes yeah it’s kind of here jeff uh i don’t have leaves on trees yet the buds are just beginning to pop some of the early apples are out packages came in last week so i’m kind of worried about them and and i’ve got friends in north carolina that are pulling swarms out of trees so yeah it’s spring hey well speaking of swarms and trees you have friends in the pacific northwest you had swarms i had a swarm last weekend worked out there yeah they walked out this hive and silly hybrid had uh swarmed and and and the swarm was underneath hanging on the bottom board huh hanging off the bottom board yeah so i swept them into a pan and put them in a nuke and i checked them today and they’re just humming right along they’re just fat and happy so mid april is that is that typical swarm time in the pacific northwest i this i’ve not had them in the end of april mid april before that it seems i have to go back and check my notes but it’s in it but it was in the may before i’ve had swarms but you know what it’s really interesting not to put a product plug here but let’s just say i had a a a hive monitoring a brood minder type product on my hive and i got an alert saying hey you might have had a swarm because it noticed a sudden loss of colony weight outstanding i thought that was pretty cool that was pretty cool so what did like an alarm go off on your phone or something i got it i received an email yeah i said you’re kidding you might no oh it was a loss of and they lost uh four pounds i think uh an alert triggered the alert and they said and and the device sent you an email that said maybe pay attention jeff you just lost four pounds of bees yeah go go look and i said i said you know just just like anybody in the new new world with instruments i didn’t trust my instruments and i said ah stupid stupid computer there’s nothing going on out there it’s april it’s pacific northwest it’s been raining i went out there and by golly there was a swarm hanging underneath the bottom board you know what you need is you need jerry bromenshank’s device that talks to you you know instead of just giving you a weight and sending you an email it needs a device that just talks to you and says hey get out of here guy yeah yeah maybe maybe so i did i did use uh his uh be guru app and uh afterwards so maybe we’ll find out uh all right what the bees are talking about after the swarm [Laughter] hey i’m looking forward to our podcast with dr jeff pettis you know him from way back don’t you i do i’ve known jeff a long time and uh it’ll be good to talk to him again we’re at april mundia together and i saw him oh i don’t know maybe 500 yards away and we waved and he was busy busy busy and i was busy busy busy so we didn’t get to chat so it’ll be good to catch up with him i haven’t talked to him in quite a while well let’s let’s get right into it i know he has a lot to talk about well dr jeff pettis welcome to beekeeping today podcast thank you thank you jeff good to be here yep yeah you and and you know i want to uh thank your parents for what a wonderful name you have i think that’s that’s uh except my my full name is jeffrey j-e-f-f-e-r-y so it’s not jeffrey and it’s not joffrey and yeah so it’s jeffree anyway i’m i i’m i’m the rey oh well well we’ll just just something to throw kim off he he won’t know which one yeah holy that jeff i like to talk to you [Laughter] well it’s kim here and jeff pettis it’s been a while since uh you and i have had a chance to talk we i i waved at you briefly at the apa mundia conference up in montreal this year and that was as close as we got you were running full speed the whole time and it’s been a while like i said it’s been a while since we talked so what you what have you been up to since you left usda well good question kim yeah i did i remember seeing you in montreal in montreal was quite quite a busy time quite a good quite a good meeting um so i left usda and move on to do other things and most people think i retired well no i didn’t retire i uh i was active i had a couple of pam grants project apis grants and i’m still working on some of those i also have a active grant with dave tarpy um usda grant with dave tarpy working on queen quality so i’m currently working on amateurs resistance as well you know looking at whether we have amortized resistance in the u.s so still pretty active on the research front but the apomondia hat that i wear um i was already the president of this bee health commission so that be health commission we cover you know varroa mites afb all the things that afflic afflict bees worldwide and i was ahead of that for over four years and then this past year in in april monday i was elected president and that’s been a change a change in what i’m responsible for and stuff like that so uh it’s a new hat but it’s a it’s a welcome challenge i think it’s serving beekeepers globally globally well that’s good to hear i’m it’s good i want to go back to your research let’s just start with there you’re working with queen quality with with dr tarpy how’s that going not well no no no i guess because um we’ve identified shipping temperatures when queens are shipped from the crane producer to the to the beekeeper we’ve identified queen shipping as one of the issues um but there’s a lot of other issues with queen health and stuff so it’s only one of the possible problems and um i’ve i kind of modeled a or did a prototype of a not an air-conditioned shipping container but a small shipping container that would move air and and kind of guarantee the queen’s safe arrival but it’ll take some more engineering to do and i’m not sure if the industry needs it and i’m not sure if you know industry is ready for it so they um there are some issues with queen shipping and then dave terpe we’ve been working on drone health and some other issues with pesticides in queens so we’re just continuing that work and while i say it’s not going well it means that queens are still a major issue for beekeepers you know around the globe and uh the longevity of queens is i know it’s not what it used to be i mean people say how do you know that well you used to see two and three-year queens and we we don’t see queens lasting much more than six years to a six months to a year now so it’s it’s an uphill battle on queen health well you guys i i think i think you’re right there on and uh the meetings that i attend that’s always one of the questions what’s going on with queens so i think you’re working on the right place looking at the looking at the things that need to be looked at well one thing i’ll give i’ll give dave tarpy’s lava a big plug they uh they have what they call a queen clinic and and i know several queen breeders around the country are using it so if the queen breeder wants to know if his or her queens are well mated and high sperm viability they can ship queens to dave tarpy’s lab and he’ll analyze it for him and give him a report on those queens and that’s been helpful giving feedback we know that early mated queens sometimes aren’t so good sometimes in the mid-summer maybe heat stress or whatever so he’s able to give feedback and provide some information back to the queen breeder about about what you know the quality of those queens that they’re producing so it’s a it’s an ongoing service that he’s providing and we’re still working together on like i said some of the heat stress issues and also some of the pesticide exposure issues with queen so if i’m going to be buying queens it might behoove me to be talking to the queen producer that i’m working with and say by the way have you uh run your operation through tarpy’s lab to see if things are going okay well yeah it’s it’s not i mean you you can analyze 10 queens and get a pretty good handle on that particular time frame you know and say you know oh these queens coming out at this time of year are really high quality and uh he’ll give you a score i mean score based on all the queens he’s analyzed over time and uh and say you know these are eight plus queens or these are b plus queens or whatever so um yeah it’s uh it’s not a bad idea and um what factors is he looking at i mean is he scoring so you ship them shipping the queen’s live shipping number queen’s live he starts he weighs the queen which is just a kind of a gross measure of you know we always think larger queens are better and that may not always feel true he does a bunch of morphometric measurements also just measuring wings and stuff to see that they’re what that is some of the key measures are he’ll do uh sperm volume the number of spur the number of sperm spermatozoa in the spermatheca and then the live dead those two measures are really important so a a well-mated queen should have over five million sperm and sometimes they’ll have eight to ten million sperm if they get below three about three million they’re probably not well mated and the other thing is the viability should be at least 85 percent or better you know with the time and we’re seeing some of these failing queens that have 30 and 40 percent viability so they’re their sperm viability is way down in some of these queens that have been heat stressed or whatever um so yeah he that the sperm volume or the number of sperm and the sperm viability he also can do virus things like that but the virus numbers i mean what do we do about viruses you know what what are we doing what are we doing currently about coronavirus social distancing canceling everything under the sun is what we’re doing with the corona virus i know i know yeah i’m canceling most of my troops is what i’m doing right yeah so well a question then is is he looking at queens over time brand new queens just made it queen’s a year old queen’s older than that so we’ve done a we’ve done some of that uh he did a very nice study uh with i can i can say the name ray oliveira’s raise a number of beekeepers are really cooperative so i’m not pointing out rey is being exceptional although he is but dave went to ray and said hey can i get some of your queens from this certain batch and then you run them in your production and look at them over time so look at them over like six to eight months so out of this one mating group um they tested them right then right after they were made it and then he put him in production colonies and shipped them to dave across the whole season well they only lost like less than 10 viability over that time period so they actually in the colonies they held up really well so he he’s done that i’ve done and published some stuff on like beekeepers who were requeening the variability was all over the board and then when beekeepers rated the colony as failing versus good the queens and the well-performing colonies had much higher sperm viability than those in the failing colonies but but not all failing colonies have have poor made poorly mated or are hiv low sperm viability queen so but that’s already been published so yeah no we we’ve he dave looked at the time series effect um but now we’re getting more into drones like making sure that drones are maturing in the spring and flight time and even pesticide exposure to drones so are the drones uh before they ever mate with the queens are they in good shape so we’re doing some of that work and that’s ongoing that’s going to produce a pretty interesting picture when when you get some of these things done and also i can see where it’s going to educate beekeepers on questions to ask and symptoms to look for so that when i i started this the heat stress stuff about two and a half or three years ago now it’s been maybe more than that and um the queen breeders were already aware of heat stress in particular because when it gets so hot they knew you know the shipping in these battery boxes and sometimes the battery boxes overheat that kind of thing so they’re doing a lot of the adding extra water so they were well aware of some of the problems but we were trying to find what was the um what was the upper and lower limit for safe shipment and we actually think we’ve arrived at it it’s a ballot and i’ll have to give it to you in centigrade i’ll let you do the conversion or i can i can do the approximate conversion it’s somewhere between 39 and 40 degrees c is the upper limit for if if queens are exposed to 39 to 40 degrees centigrade for more than an hour the viability in it within her the sperm viability is going to go down if it drops below about i think it’s eight or eight to 10 degrees c so even on the low end 810c which is about not much below 50 uh fahrenheit but eight to eight to 10 degrees centigrade the sperm viability can be damaged by the cold so we’ve got an upper limit of 39 to 40 centigrade and we’ve got a lower limit of 8 to 10 10 degrees c and that’s only an hour’s worth of exposure so it’s really narrow there’s a fairly narrow window when they’re completely safe we had a we had a shipment that got cold in july uh kim it got to eight degrees being shipped in july in the us so how did that happen so how did that happen um not in ohio i hope it had to be in the air what we assume is it was in the airplane it was that something about when the airplane was at 30 000 feet they didn’t quite regulate the cargo hold well enough and so that’s the only explanation because we also put two thermocouples in every time to make sure we’re not getting false reading and if they track the same it means that yeah it’s a true reading wow eight degrees that’s cold um well you know eight degrees eight degrees c that’s only yes celsius i think it’s about in the low 40s i can’t always do the direct conversion 16 16 is 61. that’s an easy one always that’s the easy one to remember 16 is 61. and 0 is 32. yeah and 0 32. yep that’s that’s about as good as i get right there and that’s all post-mating right any any research into pre-mating stresses on the queen on viability uh hey another good beekeeper zach browning i worked with zach browning and he made it a bunch of queens in california and we followed them and we exposed them to amatraz in different ways and amaterasu’s exposure surprisingly didn’t seem to affect them that was actually amitra’s treatment to the colony so he raised a bunch of queens in california and we treated him in north dakota when they got there and uh and that publication has actually fairly recently come out just we we we even treat him with i’ll say um some less than less than legal treatments because we wanted to mimic what what the uh what the beekeepers were doing so we used we used real world the legal strip and we used two other forms of shop towel and grease and we used it according to according to common recommendations and we didn’t see an effect on the queen so we’ve done that with uh well actually they were already mated on the pre-mating it’s mostly we’ve been doing work on the drone side looking at what what what can we do to produce good healthy drones and uh yeah year-round because the queen breeders are still trying to breed queens all through the year springtime’s easy except early spring early spring it’s hard to get the drones mature but mid-spring on it’s really easy it’s a summer that gets really stressful on drones as well so i would think the the post analysis or the analysis on the post mating drones would be difficult well you mentioned amateras jeff um you’re doing some other work with amatraz aren’t you well i think amateurs is still being used is it not uh yes so um project tape is m again i a really good uh really good outfit but funding a lot of really good practical research they um they funded both um ramesh shagili to do some work on amateurs resistance doing you know developing uh an assay or looking at was their resistance in the pacific northwest and in canada with shelley hoover in uh in alberta and then i was taking a kit that i developed a field assay that i developed and comparing it to the um vetta pharma has a little mite wash kit that they do and i and they’ve adapted it to run an assay they’ve adapted it to put a little piece of amateurs in there and put live bees in it and tell whether or not you’ve got mite resistance or not or to amateurize so i tested their with with also with input from them i tested their kit versus the one i developed which is just a um a mason jar with a screen lid so i ran the two kits side by side and they’re pretty comparable but now the real question is is there resistance out there there are mites that aren’t as easily controlled but the question is when do you call it resistance and that’s that’s the question we’re still after we don’t i’m not seeing high levels of mice that can’t be controlled but they’re not as easily controlled as they have been in the past so i the to to compare to putting a little bit into context when we saw fluvalinate resistance come it it came in about a year year and a half or two years it didn’t take long for it to really kind of spread why kumafos resistance happened even quicker than that i mean it just came in and you almost couldn’t control the mite resistance spread really quickly across the country for some reason amatraz they’re they’re they’re partially resistant but the resistance is not being fixed or it’s not holding and i’m not sure why that is it must come at a great cost to the mites or something and so the susceptible lights that are out there out outnumber them so we’re still controlling them but there are signs of some level of resistance so amatez is still working at the moment are you finding a regional resistance pockets of resistance across the country so i worked in california and tennessee and on the east coast here along in maryland and along this coast and i haven’t seen anything that i would really call resistance ramesh in oregon was comparing his mite populations with those in alberta and the mite populations in oregon were harder to kill than the ones in in alberta but i don’t know if they you call them resistant or not and he was getting he was getting bees from a lot from california oregon and washington state so he was getting a number of beekeepers from the west coast moving in to do uh i think onion and carrot pollination so he was doing a cross-section of about three states and that work is ongoing somewhat bees in uh canada coming in from i know new zealand is part of it new zealand and uh chile yeah so that may be that’s certainly going to be a factor that’s true they get they get they get fresh mites they get fried okay well you’re also keeping bees i’m keeping a few bees here so i moved out of the washington d.c area it was a high rent district i was uh glad to get out of the uh just it’s very crowded it was a good place to raise boys a great school system and stuff but uh i’m on the eastern shore of maryland it’s called it’s salisbury maryland this town we’re halfway between the chesapeake bay and the pacific and the atlantic ocean so we’re we’re right in right in the heart of call they call delmarva delaware maryland and virginia but it’s a nice area and my youngest son kevin and i are keeping somewhere between 25 and 75 colonies it depends on what time you ask me so but uh yeah it’s new and and i’m trying to develop into a small business for him so he’s uh he’s taken really taken to beekeeping lately none of the boys did it first but uh lately kevin’s kind of taken to it and we’re running a few bees which is nice it’s fun it’s uh jeff you mentioned your guitars are an escape well the bees for me are a nice escape you get have a bad day just go out and and work bees and it’ll take your mind away from that definitely so what are you what are you doing with what are you doing with the honey you’re making and are you doing any pollination well so yeah we’re doing doing a little bit a little bit of pollination they grow a lot of vine crops a lot of watermelons etc and a lot of beekeepers on the eastern shore keep bees on trailers so it’s just a a trailer and i was lucky enough to link up with oliver collins he’s a commercial beekeeper here who’s downsizing from 3000 to you know 500 and i bought a few of his trailers and uh i’ve got i did a little bit of pollination uh blueberries and um pumpkins last year so you put 20 hives on a trailer you never have to lift them and you just haul the trailer to to the uh field and when it’s done you haul it back so yeah do a little bit of pollination and mostly honey production and we sell it local markets here so we sell and control the whole price line and uh yep which which when we get when we get to april mundia we’re talking about honey fraud because that’s a major issue facing beekeepers worldwide and april monday is active on that but i mean the best thing you can do for honey fraud or well educate the consumer and have the consumer buy more directly from the beekeeper and i know that’s not always possible but that’s the way to get rid of honey frog is know your beekeeper isn’t that the truth beekeeping is harder than you thought frustration ignites innovation and the hive butler and the hive butler uncapping tank are products designed by frustrated beekeepers honey harvest needs to be cleaner and easier the hive butler does just that for you and more including makes hive inspections safer for your queens makes swarm collections easier moves bees smoothly in public and store your drawn comb over winter the hive butler is working for you every season order online at thehivebutler.com or ask your favorite bee retailer to carry the hive butler products the high butler is working for you even when you’re not see the full line at www.thehighbutler.com well you met you brought up the subject apa monday and i know you for the last four plus years you’ve been you’ve had some role with them and that just changed but what were you doing with them uh the last four years or so so um i was the president of the be health commission which we have about five scientific commissions b biology b health uh b products we work in all different aspects of beekeeping and i was the president of the be health commission so i worked on varroa and afb yeah all the pests and diseases that affect bees and we you know you know most people know we hold a big meeting every two years it moves globally around the world and so i was in charge of the scientific program for be health for that part and in this past year in montreal i was elected president of the organization so now i’m more doing more uh anyway more public relations and more just across the board trying to manage the organization and and and help us serve beekeepers better well i’m gonna apramundia isn’t isn’t really well known in this country and and it’s not really well known by me can you just and give me a a matchbook cover sketch of how it’s admitted you know how the administration works and filters down so and what does it do for me okay well that’s so let me start with a little bit of just a little bit of history i won’t give you the that’s good yeah it started it started out of um bucharest romania in in the in the old soviet union stuff and it was um a publishing house and it was gathering information on beekeeping and publishing this thing called apiacta and then they started holding this meeting this global meeting mostly european-based but it was uh called april monday it started um the first one was in copenhagen denmark i think it was in denmark um about 100 years ago so then every second year they’d have a big international meeting well international meant it really only was european and then the americas and some other people started getting involved became more international um it’s mostly just bringing beekeepers and scientists together to try to talk about common problems and and and serve the industry there’s a huge trade show that goes along with it um and it’s a chance for like i said for beekeepers from all over and scientists from all over to come together and talk for a week about common problems so um luckily you’re right in north america it’s not as well known but the canadians have always been involved in april monday and they’ve hosted two in vancouver and then just recently montreal but the american honey producers uh have just joined and they joined because of our work april monday’s work on honey fraud so i have to give a shout out to norberto garcia who’s on our board and he is active in international honey markets and trying to understand honey fraud and so has the honey producers and the honey producers have been after honey fraud uh you know and adulteration for a long time so the american honey producers saw the value in joining april mundia and so we have a common theme there at least in honey frog oh so i didn’t give you much about the administration so sorry there’s a there’s a president and a vice president and there’s an executive secretary and he’s in rome and he he kind of runs the day-to-day operations of the thing we have about 120 to 130 uh full members which are either countries or major organizations within those countries so you have to represent the majority of beekeepers in the country or are the majority of beekeepers in a region of a country so you can be a full member there’s a lot of associate members smaller clubs and things like that and then you can yeah and these are the producers no they’re beekeeper organization so we represent we represent globally all the different beekeeping organizations but within those are are the beekeepers themselves so we’re we’re the associate the international association of beekeepers association so we’re we’re the with the head body that kind of pulls it all together and our our flagship is the meeting every two years and but with beyond that we host symposia in different parts of the world on specific problems like we just had one in the philippines about two weeks ago on um stingless bees and people do manage stingless bees little small thingless bees that produce very small amounts of honey but it has medicinal quality so it’s it’s high value um so there’s even that kind of beekeeping but back to the structure so we have a president vice president executive secretary and then we have these five to six scientific commissions and we have five regional commissions so we have a one for the americas which is north and south america and we have one for europe uh the east africa and uh australasia so we we have the regions of the world represented by a by a president from that region and uh to bring the concerns of those people forward to april mundia so anyway it’s a it’s been an organization that was mostly focused on this meeting over the past so many years and before that it was publishing we were kim and you could probably appreciate that you know being associated with b culture they published ap active for a long time that print form kind of fell out of favor and uh that we don’t we don’t do any printing anymore but i’m hoping that we’re going to change and get better in the information exchange realm where we’re doing more just like you’re doing here digitally and and uh with video streaming of some of our conference information so that was what i in my goals for the organization i talked about three things was diversity diversity of the beekeepers the types of beekeepers and the types of bees that we keep so from apis malifa to stingless bees you know just different kinds of bees and the diversity of types of beekeeping a very traditional beekeeping and log hives all the way up to modern you know mechanized beekeeping and then communication and i talked about having our meeting part of our meeting streamed so that people don’t have to go to the meeting you know and be there in person they can stream it from you know from ireland or from africa and and be involved in the meeting and i didn’t realize that you know we were about to be hit by a disruption to world to world trade and commerce but we just had our first um zoom meeting of our executive comm committee so i just set that up and we just used zoom to meet across about you know 12 time zones so um but but for the organization for april monday and for the meeting i’m hoping to create more digital content for beekeepers around the world to tune into so that that would be a goal and the last part is just respect for the bees we have to keep you know that the bees themselves are what we’re all about you know keeping good bees anyway that’s a i know that was kind of a long-winded uh aprimundia sales pitch but it’s a it’s a challenge because beekeepers vary all over the globe but we try to represent them all and we try to represent their interests how often does the board meet so we meet every may we’re on a two-year cycle so every may the whole executive meets in rome on a non-conference year we meet in rome and on a conference here we meet in the city where the meeting is going to occur so last may we met in montreal and then we came back in september we had the meeting so this year well this year we’re going to have this is good this year we’re going to have a virtual meeting in may on zoom and cut down on transportation cost and our carbon footprint and everything else so we’ll have a virtual meeting in may via zoom and then hopefully next may we’ll meet in russia in uffa russia ufo russia is the site of 2021 our meeting in 2021. so we’d meet in may there and then in the following fall we would have the international meeting so there’s about we have 13 or 14 uh executive board members and we come together and you know discuss the business and set the agendas and and work on the scientific programs and things like that for the meeting jeff and i normally work mostly at most three time zones i can’t imagine trying to organize 12. so well guess what guess what i’m i’m uh you’re right about north america has not been as involved in april mundia uh i’m so there’s only i’m i’m on the one one extreme of the time zones and the other is uh jody goldsworthy um in australia and she’s she was she was tuning in at 10 o’clock and i was tuning in at 6 00 a.m so and then we have this window of about four hours where i’m i’m waking up and she’s she’s you know but everyone else is in the middle somewhere so it’s um we only have that one window because i i don’t really feel like getting up in the middle of the night but it works it works and we’re and we’re we’re gonna have to get used to it so what i was gonna come back to two of the biggest issues that we’re working on um one is just honey adulteration and honey fraud i mean that’s a that’s a huge issue i mean that’s that’s one of our major initiatives and um jeff before you go further what’s the definition of honey fraud generally it could be a lot of different things but generally it’s the addition of some type of uh syrup that is not honey to to uh you know to increase the volume and then and increase lower the price and uh of the of the the weight so they add rice syrup or some kind of corn syrup to honey and hope it goes undetected and if you can add it up to 15 or 20 or 30 percent of the honey then you just um you just increase your profit because the honey’s worth you know let’s say you know five dollars a kilo and and the rice syrup is worth you know 30 cents a kilo or something so it’s it’s often it is um it’s the addition of the adulteration the addition of other sugars that are that are not really honey the other way that we’re worried about is not actually letting the bees process like you’re just harvesting unripened nectar that’s and then just um the bees haven’t added the enzymes to it and things like that and so they’re you’re taking really raw nectar extracting and drying it down and calling it honey and to us the bees the bees need to go through the process of adding the enzymes you know lowering the moisture and then then it becomes honey there’s some issues in the tropics because tropical honey can have high moisture content above 18 above 23 so we have to be able to dry honey at some some point but we should let the bees actually mature it and then we harvest it and there’s a lot of harvesting of immature honey and then drying that down and calling it honey so there’s several ways that that honey frog is going on recently there’s been reports in in popular science media that there are some been some scientists who have recreated the enzymes of a of a bees uh a gut and can produce uh uh you know lab honey would that be considered if they could produce that in a production i would certainly hope that we would be able to detect it and call it not honey back to the american honey producers a little bit because they’ve been active really they got an embargo world trade organization they went to world wto and said china is jumping and i have to call it my name china’s dumping honey at the u.s market below below uh below market below production cost and the world trade organization agreed with them that we got an embargo against chinese honey for i think three years well guess what happened to vietnamese and some other countries their honey production went through the roof so that’s another type of honey fraud where you take honey from a country it’s banned because of chlorine finacle or it’s banned because of some other thing and they transship it and re-label it as you know some other honey ukraine there’s issues with ukraine and other i don’t want to call out all the countries but there’s a huge issue with the correct labeling of country of origin and then and also in letting the bees mature the honey and having it be real you know as we think of as real pure natural honey one of the things that has come out of this with the american honey producers and others i’m sure is uh finally the if the fda has created something called a commercial item description cid that uh goes way way way the the definition that we have in honey of honey in this country the official legal definition is a syrupy substance nectar collected by bees stored dried and that’s about it what the cid does is that actually i’m sure you’re aware of this it’s a description of honey that the government uses when they are going to purchase honey when the federal government’s going to purchase honey for their own use and they have this for every product that they buy a cid now we have one for honey and and basically what it is it’s it takes the definition way beyond the syrupy sweet substance uh outlining the tests that it has to pass and by what degree it has to pass them and various different analyses that it goes through so what the us is looking for is to have this adopted so that when something comes on shore there are testing facilities available and the honey gets tested and part of this of course is that you you mentioned mislabeling at source some of that’s going to be pollen testing i’m sure right yep yep but guess what they’re getting so sophisticated they there’s another thing that happens because you get antibiotic contamination and stuff because you know and then you ultra filter the the honey so you can get some of that out then they go back and add pollen of whatever appropriate uh plant that they want to save that the honey is from so there’s i mean there’s some fairly sophisticated honey fraud going on out there um so i agree that the honey producers and and other groups have been really active apa mandia we’ve been working with codex then codex happens to be based part of it’s based at fao in rome and we’ve got a agreement with them and we’re working with codex trying to get a better definition for honey and the other thing is we’re working with interpol interpol you know tracking really yeah because honey fraud is number three on the list it’s for some reason it’s milk i mean i i can’t milk is scary if you’re adulterating milk or not it’s not real milk milk olive oil i understand olive oil i totally understand and then but and then honey is number three on the world market it’s the number it’s the number three adult traded product on the market uh milk olive oil and then and then honey so interpol is interested and they’re they’re looking at things like where are these shipments originating from and could they be real and things like that because uh that’s a good way to pick up if all of a sudden you see these spikes in export where they haven’t been there before then there’s something going on they didn’t they didn’t improve their beekeeping that much in the last you know yeah yeah they didn’t have a major nectar flow yeah so there’s oh there’s a wide range yeah i applaud any effort to better define honey and it’d be nice if we had a really nice tight international standard but we don’t i mean we have a yeah we have codex has a definition but it’s not it’s not stringent enough well since the u.s imports 80 percent of the honey we consume we are we are the market of choice for everybody that produces honey anywhere and one of the things that i’ve been investigating or not investigating but but become aware of is that one of the nice things about producing honey is if a country decides that they want to get into this export market it’s fairly easy to train uh people to keep bees in their country and one of the big advantages is that you don’t have to own land and and and so i can be up i can be a non-landowner and still produce an agriculture commodity and the government’s going to pay me for it and life just got a lot better for a lot of people hey you had you had a long association maybe you’re still associated with ai root but you know where all the good good clean waxes come it’s all coming out of africa africa right right they practice the style of beekeeping where it primitive traditional whatever you want to call it they’re in natural areas they’re harvesting the wax and the comb and the wax and honey at the same time and they produce a lot of good quality wax um again i’m gonna wear my apron monday i have for a minute we have a whole section that is using bees for development and that is exactly what you just talked about that bees can transform people’s lives i mean they can you can not own land have 20 hives and and you know and buy your house in in certain parts of the world i mean you know it’s it’s amazing what they can do and and so we’re we’re using that and we’re working closely with fao food and agricultural organization of the united nations in rome and trying to partner with them to increase the use of bees for development because yeah you’re right there’s a there’s a lot of untapped nectar out there that could be utilized and change people’s lives an international standard i i think you hit it on the head the honey’s got to be the same everywhere which would which would make things better i think i think there’s another way because people are going to they’re going to keep trying to sell this uh artificially produced honey and this this stuff with added things i actually think there’s a market for that if people want something that’s honey like just don’t call it honey in other words it’s uh call it you know honey syrup or something but use some other designation and and i wonder if we could ever get to a day where there’s some kind of better traceability i mean we always thought pollen would be you know but you can filter that out and you can add it back but if there’s some set of enzymes or something that we can look for i know you can look for things that if it’s ever been heated to any degree you can look for things that have changed in it but um yeah a standard and i don’t know if we can figure a traceability to trace it back to zimbabwe or trace it back to you know kansas you know and well last last year we did have eric winger from truesource on the podcast and he and his outfit have are working on a method to to true source it from from audits and and seals uh it seems like that’s one option that is has some legs no that would be that would be an option i guess what happens is the volume goes up as you get into these bigger and bigger volumes and these large packers that that’s where the the things start getting loose and uh and then you end up with honey on the shelf that you can’t trust and we have to find a way to correct that i like i like you know if you can convince that most of the consumers to go look locally they can find somebody that’s labeling it locally and hopefully they’re you know they’re honest and you have to what up and then make the krogers and the safeways and and targets of the world you know do do better about their buying they’re buying but yeah well so when honey when honey is a commodity honey nut cheerios and the like that’s uh it’s tough to it’s tough to to work with at larger volume with you know being used that way so yeah i know i’m not sure so this is this is going to be one of your goals as president of april monday to clean up the world’s honey market well it’s um it it’s one of the one of the things we’ve been actively working on and we recognize it and we’re going to continue to to work on it the other is just for me it’s just better communication from april mundia and and being more inclusive as far as global beekeeping and trying to let us work together better so yeah no i mean i think honey fraud is one of the major issues facing the industry and i think we need to work to try to correct it the best way we can just quick question on on the beekeeper so this is a beekeeper association association yeah i think he’s what you said so if an individual me as a beekeeper doesn’t join epimodia i would encourage my your association to join but you can actually join as an individual member too and it and you get that way you’re at least part of the you know the bigger group you don’t have much in the way the only people who vote and we vote on where to hold the next meeting and things like that are the full members and full members are like the american beekeeping federation the larger organizations that represent the majority of beekeepers in an area some of this is a whole country sometimes this is just an area of a country all right so yeah interested parties interested beekeepers are free to join and yep but the king’s attend conferences yeah the kansas beekeepers or even individual beekeepers can join and join new york all right good yeah well you’re gonna put that uh when we wrap this up that’ll be on our web page how to where to go to make that happen right yeah i’ll put i’ll do my link to the april monday website and something good yep yep we’ll have that up on our show notes and uh additional information about apomondia and maybe even some of your research all they need to do is go out to google scholar and they can find a lot of information and and work research you’ve done that’s been an honor to sit here and talk to you well i’m still i’m still doing a little bit i so i i kind of opened with this thing this comment but people say oh you retired i’m like i don’t know what’s that’s not the right word i’m i changed what i was doing and uh i’m i’m still doing research in a couple of different fronts uh actually i didn’t talk about it i got a small project in france i’m working on a small i’m supposed to leave in two weeks to go back to france i’m working on a project with apis melipper milifera own uh the old german dark beer they call it just the dark bee european bee and there’s a is existing there without treatment the beekeepers don’t treat and they have a lot of while it’s on an island it happens to be on an island so it’s probably isolation that’s helping them but i’ve been following it for a year and a half and it’s existing without my treatment at all so not that we can all do that but it’s uh it’s interesting so i’ve i’ve got several different research projects that i’m continuing and uh that and now this april monday i had and then trying to keep my own bees from swarming i’m i’m busy enough yeah well jeff this has been fun and it was good to talk with you again i definitely hope that you can come back after some time as being april mundy a president and give us give us a a a a a broader view a time-lapse view of how things are going and where you want to go next we’d love to have you come back i’d love to be back yes all right good job thank you jeff hey thank you jeff take care now that was really good talking to jeff um you know i i learned in all of our podcasts and i hope our listeners do too i i learned a lot and i what i found i mean the the he’s doing a lot of great work but what i found really interesting what i really keyed in on was the the queen limit and the viability and and how important that is to the success of the queens that we receive in the mail i mean so there was some discussion on uh the the celsius temperature range so i went ahead and using the power of the internet i did the conversions so he said the lower conver the lower uh let’s see no i’m sorry the upper queen limit was 39 to 40 degrees celsius any any greater than an hour and if you convert that the upper limit is 102.2 degrees to 104 degrees fahrenheit 102 yeah that’s pretty warm 102. and then he said the lower limit was uh i think it was eight to ten wasn’t it yeah eight to ten thank you yeah eight to ten degrees celsius and that’s 39 degrees to 40 degrees uh fahrenheit so that’s i mean it’s a very narrow range and and um you can really see where there’s a lot of room for exposure to this this shipment thing has been a bugaboo uh 20 years ago they were looking at it they were putting putting thermometer you know recording devices in queen in boxes shipping queens and they were finding out that there was an issue and and you know the post office is down to the point where the only thing they will ship are bees and baby chicks so so i can see where you know it’s hard to have environmental controls in in that sort of environment so um i can see where there’s that’s going to cause some problems you know one one of the things that i wanted to talk about or i wanted to mention with jeff and and you remember our discussion with jonathan lundgren where researchers became farmers here we have researchers becoming beekeepers and and jeff is in the real world of pulling trailers and lifting hives and worrying about pollination fees and selling honey and he’s getting that perspective of what the real world of beekeeping is about and how to apply what he’s doing to that part of the that part of the industry i i don’t know a whole lot of people that are doing that and i think it’s i think it’s going to be really good from his perspective and for our gain and what he’s what he’s able to find out and apply to real research the other thing i like the other thing i liked was his goal you know zappamundia president of april mundia what do we know about april monday well i hope now we know a lot more i do i go back a lot of years with april monday when i was chairman of the board of eas and there they weren’t warm and fuzzy and and i looked at i looked at aprimundia kind of three steps back most of my career in it because they just haven’t reached out a lot of friendly uh a lot of friendly hands it’s really good that jeff’s part of this now to get the u.s and april mundia on a much better relationship i really like his goals better communication april monday really has a lot of good information at the you know a lot of resources at their beck and call and they can share it and now with him he’s looking at digital communication and and you know conferences on zoom and whatever yeah um i see i see apomondia really stepping up and joining the rest of the world or the us and the april monday are getting together and doing a lot more together which can only be good they’ve got a lot of resources and we’ve got a lot of resources and then i’m really encouraged about his about his goals on on uh chasing honey fraud you know we did uh eric with uh with true source and you know that’s a good step in the right direction with with uh in an international uh uh take on on honey fraud and the things that they’re looking at and the project the product i’ll get it right yeah the projects that they’ve got planned in what they’re looking for and how to find it and how to end it uh can only be good for american beekeepers so i’m really really encouraged with uh jeff taking over i’m glad that the u.s uh american honey producers and april monday are shaking hands and i look for this being really really profitable for global beekeeping it sure sounds like it’s a step in the right direction i was surprised with him saying that some of these bad actors are hyper filtering the honey and then adding the sugar syrup or the syrup to it and then adding pollen back into it to oh my god that sounds like anyways that’s well you know that’s quite a challenge it’s quite a challenge the guy that we talked to on honey fraud earlier he says there’s no basement on price and there’s no ceiling on the amount of fraud that people will commit so uh jeff just kind of pointed that out again um you know 75 percent of the honey we eat consume in this country is imported so we’re we’re the market of choice i was glad to hear him though talk about his be their bees for development program and getting people started if they can get that regulated so that the honey they produce is the honey we get that’ll be a big improvement um and and you know it’s win-win win you know the farmer wins the country wins the u.s consumer wins i see it as being a good thing i i hope it pans out 92. well they’ve got a good good lead there at the epimony with jeff pettis at the front so all right well that about wraps it up for this episode of beekeeping today podcast before we go i want to encourage our listeners to rate us five stars in apple podcast wherever you download and stream the show your vote and review helps other beekeepers find us quicker as always we want to thank beeculture the magazine for american beekeeping for their sponsorship of this podcast we want to thank our regular episode sponsor global patties check them out at www.globalpaddies.com and finally and mostly we want to thank you the beekeeping today podcast listener for joining us on this show we feel free to send us questions and comments at questions at beekeepingtodaypodcast.com we’d love to hear from you anything else you want to mention kim well i think that does it jeff i got to go check bees yeah get out there while the sun is shining take care all right you too [Music] .

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1.599 kind of here jeff
1.599 uh i don&;t have leaves on trees yet the
1.599 buds are just beginning to pop some of
1.599 the early apples are out packages came
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1.599 so i&;m kind of worried about them and
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1.599 out of trees so yeah it&;s spring
1.599 hey well speaking of swarms and trees
1.599 you have friends in the pacific
1.599 northwest you had swarms i had a swarm
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1.599 worked out there yeah they walked out
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1.599 had uh
1.599 swarmed and and and
1.599 the swarm was underneath hanging on the
1.599 bottom board huh
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1.599 swept them into a pan and put them in a
1.599 nuke and i checked them today and
1.599 they&;re just
1.599 humming right along they&;re just
1.599 fat and happy so mid april is that is
1.599 that typical swarm time in the pacific
1.599 northwest
1.599 i this i&;ve not had them in the end of
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1.599 before that it seems i have to go back
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1.599 may before i&;ve had swarms
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1.599 oh it was a loss of and they lost uh
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1.599 yeah
1.599 yeah
1.599 maybe maybe so
1.599 i did i did use uh his uh be guru app
1.599 and uh afterwards so maybe we&;ll find
1.599 out uh all right what the bees are
1.599 talking about after the swarm
1.599 [Laughter]
1.599 hey i&;m looking forward to our podcast
1.599 with dr jeff pettis you know him from
1.599 way back don&;t you i do i&;ve known jeff
1.599 a long time
1.599 and uh it&;ll be good to talk to him
1.599 again we&;re at april mundia together and
1.599 i saw him oh i don&;t know maybe 500
1.599 yards away and we waved and
1.599 he was busy busy busy and i was busy
1.599 busy busy so we didn&;t get to chat so
1.599 it&;ll be good to catch up with him i
1.599 haven&;t talked to him in quite a while
1.599 well let&;s let&;s get right into it i
1.599 know he has a lot to talk about
1.599 well dr jeff pettis welcome to
1.599 beekeeping today podcast thank you thank
1.599 you jeff good to be here yep yeah you
1.599 and and you know i want to uh thank your
1.599 parents for what a wonderful name you
1.599 have
1.599 i think that&;s that&;s
1.599 uh
1.599 except my my full name is jeffrey
1.599 j-e-f-f-e-r-y
1.599 so it&;s not jeffrey and it&;s not joffrey
1.599 and yeah so it&;s jeffree
1.599 anyway i&;m
1.599 i i&;m i&;m the rey
1.599 oh well well we&;ll just just something
1.599 to throw kim off he he won&;t know which
1.599 one yeah holy that jeff i like to talk
1.599 to you
1.599 [Laughter]
1.599 well it&;s kim here
1.599 and
1.599 jeff pettis it&;s been a while since uh
1.599 you and i have had a chance to talk we i
1.599 i waved at you briefly at the apa mundia
1.599 conference up in montreal this year and
1.599 that was as close as we got you were
1.599 running full speed the whole time
1.599 and it&;s been a while like i said it&;s
1.599 been a while since we talked so what you
1.599 what have you been up to since you left
1.599 usda
1.599 well good question kim yeah i did i
1.599 remember seeing you in montreal in
1.599 montreal was quite quite a busy time
1.599 quite a good quite a good meeting um
1.599 so i left usda and move on to do other
1.599 things and most people think i retired
1.599 well no i didn&;t retire i uh
1.599 i was active i had a couple of pam
1.599 grants project apis grants and i&;m still
1.599 working on some of those i also have a
1.599 active grant with dave tarpy um usda
1.599 grant with dave tarpy working on queen
1.599 quality so
1.599 i&;m currently working on amateurs
1.599 resistance as well you know looking at
1.599 whether we have amortized resistance in
1.599 the u.s so still pretty active on the
1.599 research front
1.599 but the apomondia hat that i wear um
1.599 i was already the
1.599 president of this
1.599 bee health commission so that be health
1.599 commission
1.599 we cover you know varroa mites afb all
1.599 the things that afflic afflict bees
1.599 worldwide and i was ahead of that for
1.599 over four years
1.599 and then this past year in in april
1.599 monday i was elected president and
1.599 that&;s been a change a change in what
1.599 i&;m responsible for and stuff like that
1.599 so uh it&;s a new hat but it&;s a
1.599 it&;s a welcome challenge i think it&;s
1.599 serving beekeepers globally globally
1.599 well
1.599 that&;s good to hear i&;m it&;s good
1.599 i want to go back to your research let&;s
1.599 just start with there you&;re working
1.599 with queen quality with with dr tarpy
1.599 how&;s that going not well no no
1.599 no i guess because um
1.599 we&;ve identified shipping temperatures
1.599 when queens are shipped from the crane
1.599 producer to the to the beekeeper we&;ve
1.599 identified queen shipping as one of the
1.599 issues um
1.599 but there&;s a lot of other issues with
1.599 queen health and stuff so it&;s only one
1.599 of the possible problems and um
1.599 i&;ve i kind of modeled a
1.599 or did a prototype of a
1.599 not an air-conditioned shipping
1.599 container but a small shipping container
1.599 that would move air and and kind of
1.599 guarantee the queen&;s
1.599 safe arrival but it&;ll take some more
1.599 engineering to do and i&;m not sure if
1.599 the industry
1.599 needs it and i&;m not sure if you know
1.599 industry is ready for it so they
1.599 um there are some issues with queen
1.599 shipping and then dave terpe we&;ve been
1.599 working on drone health and some other
1.599 issues with pesticides in queens so
1.599 we&;re just continuing that work and
1.599 while i say it&;s not going well it means
1.599 that queens are still a major issue for
1.599 beekeepers you know around the globe and
1.599 uh the longevity of queens is
1.599 i know it&;s not what it used to be i
1.599 mean people say how do you know that
1.599 well you used to see two and three-year
1.599 queens and we we don&;t see queens
1.599 lasting much more than six years to a
1.599 six months to a year now
1.599 so it&;s it&;s an uphill battle on queen
1.599 health
1.599 well you guys i i think i think you&;re
1.599 right there on and uh
1.599 the meetings that i attend that&;s always
1.599 one of the questions what&;s going on
1.599 with queens so i think you&;re working on
1.599 the right place looking at the looking
1.599 at the things that need to be looked at
1.599 well one thing i&;ll give i&;ll give dave
1.599 tarpy&;s lava a big plug they uh they
1.599 have what they call a queen clinic and
1.599 and i know several queen breeders around
1.599 the country are using it so if the queen
1.599 breeder wants to know if his or her
1.599 queens are well mated and high sperm
1.599 viability they can ship queens to dave
1.599 tarpy&;s lab and he&;ll analyze it for him
1.599 and give him a report on those queens
1.599 and that&;s been helpful giving feedback
1.599 we know that early mated queens
1.599 sometimes aren&;t so good sometimes in
1.599 the mid-summer maybe heat stress or
1.599 whatever so he&;s able to give feedback
1.599 and provide some
1.599 information back to the queen breeder
1.599 about about what you know the quality of
1.599 those queens that they&;re producing so
1.599 it&;s a it&;s an ongoing service that he&;s
1.599 providing and we&;re still working
1.599 together on
1.599 like i said some of the heat stress
1.599 issues and also some of the pesticide
1.599 exposure issues with queen
1.599 so if i&;m going to
1.599 be buying queens
1.599 it might behoove me to be
1.599 talking to the queen producer that i&;m
1.599 working with and say by the way have you
1.599 uh run your operation through tarpy&;s
1.599 lab to see if things are going okay
1.599 well yeah it&;s it&;s not i mean
1.599 you you can analyze 10 queens and get a
1.599 pretty good handle on that particular
1.599 time frame you know and say you know oh
1.599 these queens coming out at this time of
1.599 year are really high quality and uh
1.599 he&;ll give you a score i mean score
1.599 based on all the queens he&;s analyzed
1.599 over time and uh and say you know these
1.599 are eight plus queens or these are b
1.599 plus queens or whatever so um
1.599 yeah it&;s uh
1.599 it&;s not a bad idea and um
1.599 what factors is he looking at i mean is
1.599 he scoring so you ship them shipping the
1.599 queen&;s live shipping number queen&;s
1.599 live he starts he weighs the queen which
1.599 is just a kind of a gross measure of you
1.599 know
1.599 we always think larger queens are better
1.599 and that may not always feel true he
1.599 does a bunch of morphometric
1.599 measurements also just measuring wings
1.599 and stuff to see that they&;re what that
1.599 is
1.599 some of the key measures are
1.599 he&;ll do uh sperm volume the number of
1.599 spur the number of sperm spermatozoa in
1.599 the spermatheca and then the live dead
1.599 those two measures are really important
1.599 so a
1.599 a well-mated queen should have
1.599 over five million sperm and sometimes
1.599 they&;ll have eight to ten million sperm
1.599 if they get below three about three
1.599 million they&;re probably not well mated
1.599 and the other thing is the viability
1.599 should be at least 85 percent or better
1.599 you know with the time
1.599 and we&;re seeing some of these failing
1.599 queens that have 30 and 40 percent
1.599 viability so they&;re their sperm
1.599 viability is way down in some of these
1.599 queens that have been heat stressed or
1.599 whatever um so yeah he that
1.599 the sperm volume or the number of sperm
1.599 and the
1.599 sperm viability he also can do virus
1.599 things like that but the virus numbers i
1.599 mean what do we do about viruses you
1.599 know what what are we doing what are we
1.599 doing currently about coronavirus
1.599 social distancing canceling everything
1.599 under the sun is what we&;re doing with
1.599 the corona virus i know i know yeah
1.599 i&;m canceling most of my troops is what
1.599 i&;m doing right yeah
1.599 so
1.599 well
1.599 a question then is is he looking at
1.599 queens over time brand new queens just
1.599 made it queen&;s a year old queen&;s
1.599 older than that
1.599 so we&;ve done a we&;ve done some of that
1.599 uh he did a very nice study uh with i
1.599 can i can say the name ray oliveira&;s
1.599 raise
1.599 a number of beekeepers are really
1.599 cooperative so i&;m not pointing out rey
1.599 is being exceptional although he is but
1.599 dave went to ray and said hey can i get
1.599 some of your queens from this certain
1.599 batch and then you run them in your
1.599 production and look at them over time so
1.599 look at them over like six to eight
1.599 months
1.599 so out of this one mating group
1.599 um they tested them right then right
1.599 after they were made it and then he put
1.599 him in production colonies and shipped
1.599 them to dave across the whole season
1.599 well they only lost like less than 10
1.599 viability over that time period so they
1.599 actually in the colonies they held up
1.599 really well so he he&;s done that
1.599 i&;ve done and published some stuff on
1.599 like beekeepers who were requeening the
1.599 variability was all over the board and
1.599 then when beekeepers rated the colony as
1.599 failing versus good
1.599 the queens and the well-performing
1.599 colonies had much higher sperm viability
1.599 than those in the failing colonies but
1.599 but not all failing colonies have have
1.599 poor made poorly mated or are hiv
1.599 low sperm viability queen so but that&;s
1.599 already been published so
1.599 yeah no we we&;ve he dave looked at the
1.599 time series effect
1.599 um
1.599 but now we&;re getting more into drones
1.599 like making sure that drones are
1.599 maturing in the spring and flight time
1.599 and even pesticide exposure to drones so
1.599 are the drones uh before they ever mate
1.599 with the queens are they in good shape
1.599 so we&;re doing some of that work and
1.599 that&;s ongoing that&;s going to produce a
1.599 pretty interesting picture when when you
1.599 get some of these things done and
1.599 also
1.599 i can see where it&;s going to educate
1.599 beekeepers on questions to ask and
1.599 symptoms to look for
1.599 so that when i i started this the heat
1.599 stress stuff about two and a half or
1.599 three years ago now it&;s been maybe more
1.599 than that and um
1.599 the queen breeders were already aware of
1.599 heat stress in particular because when
1.599 it gets so hot they knew you know the
1.599 shipping in these battery boxes and
1.599 sometimes the battery boxes overheat
1.599 that kind of thing so they&;re doing a
1.599 lot of the adding extra water
1.599 so they were well aware of some of the
1.599 problems but we were trying to find what
1.599 was the um
1.599 what was the upper and lower limit for
1.599 safe shipment and we actually think
1.599 we&;ve arrived at it it&;s a ballot and
1.599 i&;ll have to give it to you in
1.599 centigrade i&;ll let you do the
1.599 conversion or i can i can do the
1.599 approximate conversion
1.599 it&;s somewhere between 39 and 40 degrees
1.599 c
1.599 is the upper limit
1.599 for if if queens are exposed to 39 to 40
1.599 degrees centigrade for more than an hour
1.599 the viability in it within her the sperm
1.599 viability is going to go down
1.599 if it drops below about
1.599 i think it&;s eight or eight to 10
1.599 degrees c so even on the low end 810c
1.599 which is about not much below 50 uh
1.599 fahrenheit but eight to eight to 10
1.599 degrees centigrade the sperm viability
1.599 can be damaged by the cold so we&;ve got
1.599 an upper limit of 39 to 40 centigrade
1.599 and we&;ve got a lower limit of 8 to 10
1.599 10 degrees c and that&;s only an hour&;s
1.599 worth of exposure
1.599 so
1.599 it&;s really narrow
1.599 there&;s a fairly narrow window when
1.599 they&;re completely safe
1.599 we had a we had a shipment that got cold
1.599 in july uh kim
1.599 it got to eight degrees
1.599 being shipped in july in the us
1.599 so how did that happen so how did that
1.599 happen
1.599 um
1.599 not in ohio i hope it had to be in the
1.599 air what we assume is it was in the
1.599 airplane
1.599 it was that something about when the
1.599 airplane was at 30 000 feet they didn&;t
1.599 quite regulate the cargo hold well
1.599 enough
1.599 and so that&;s the only explanation
1.599 because we also put two thermocouples in
1.599 every time to make sure we&;re not
1.599 getting false reading and if they track
1.599 the same it means that yeah it&;s a true
1.599 reading
1.599 wow
1.599 eight degrees that&;s cold
1.599 um well you know eight degrees eight
1.599 degrees c that&;s only
1.599 yes celsius i think it&;s about in the
1.599 low 40s
1.599 i can&;t always do the direct conversion
1.599 16 16 is 61. that&;s an easy one always
1.599 that&;s the easy one to remember 16 is
1.599 61. and 0 is 32. yeah and 0 32. yep
1.599 that&;s that&;s
1.599 about as good as i get right there
1.599 and that&;s all post-mating right any any
1.599 research into pre-mating stresses on the
1.599 queen on viability
1.599 uh hey another good beekeeper zach
1.599 browning i worked with zach browning and
1.599 he made it a bunch of queens in
1.599 california
1.599 and we followed them and we exposed them
1.599 to amatraz in different ways and
1.599 amaterasu&;s exposure surprisingly didn&;t
1.599 seem to affect them that was actually
1.599 amitra&;s treatment to the colony so he
1.599 raised a bunch of queens in california
1.599 and we treated him in north dakota when
1.599 they got there and uh and that
1.599 publication has actually fairly recently
1.599 come out just
1.599 we we we even treat him with i&;ll say um
1.599 some
1.599 less than
1.599 less than legal treatments because we
1.599 wanted to mimic what what the uh what
1.599 the beekeepers were doing so we used
1.599 we used real world the legal strip and
1.599 we used two other forms of shop towel
1.599 and grease
1.599 and we used it according to according to
1.599 common recommendations and we didn&;t see
1.599 an effect on the queen so we&;ve done
1.599 that with uh well actually they were
1.599 already mated
1.599 on the pre-mating it&;s mostly we&;ve been
1.599 doing work on the drone side looking at
1.599 what what what can we do to produce good
1.599 healthy drones and uh
1.599 yeah year-round because the queen
1.599 breeders are still trying to breed
1.599 queens all through the year
1.599 springtime&;s easy except early spring
1.599 early spring it&;s hard to get the drones
1.599 mature but
1.599 mid-spring on it&;s really easy it&;s a
1.599 summer that gets really stressful on
1.599 drones as well so
1.599 i would think the the post analysis or
1.599 the analysis on the post mating drones
1.599 would be difficult
1.599 well you mentioned amateras jeff
1.599 um
1.599 you&;re doing some other work with
1.599 amatraz aren&;t you
1.599 well i think amateurs is still being
1.599 used is it not uh yes so
1.599 um
1.599 project tape is m again i
1.599 a really good uh really good outfit but
1.599 funding a lot of really good practical
1.599 research they um
1.599 they funded both um
1.599 ramesh shagili to do some work on
1.599 amateurs resistance doing you know
1.599 developing uh an assay or looking at
1.599 was their resistance in the pacific
1.599 northwest and in canada with shelley
1.599 hoover in uh in alberta and then i was
1.599 taking a kit that i developed a field
1.599 assay that i developed and comparing it
1.599 to
1.599 the um
1.599 vetta pharma has a little mite wash kit
1.599 that they do and i and they&;ve adapted
1.599 it to run an assay they&;ve adapted it to
1.599 put a little piece of amateurs in there
1.599 and put live bees in it and tell whether
1.599 or not you&;ve got mite resistance or not
1.599 or to amateurize so i tested their with
1.599 with also with input from them i tested
1.599 their kit versus the one i developed
1.599 which is just a um
1.599 a mason jar with a screen lid so i ran
1.599 the two kits side by side and they&;re
1.599 pretty comparable but now the real
1.599 question is is there resistance out
1.599 there
1.599 there are mites that aren&;t as easily
1.599 controlled but the question is when do
1.599 you call it resistance and that&;s that&;s
1.599 the question we&;re still after we don&;t
1.599 i&;m not seeing high levels of
1.599 mice that can&;t be controlled but
1.599 they&;re not as easily controlled as they
1.599 have been in the past so
1.599 i the to to compare to putting a little
1.599 bit into context
1.599 when we saw fluvalinate resistance come
1.599 it it came in about a year year and a
1.599 half or two years it didn&;t take long
1.599 for it to really kind of spread why
1.599 kumafos resistance happened even quicker
1.599 than that i mean it just came in and you
1.599 almost couldn&;t control the mite
1.599 resistance spread really quickly across
1.599 the country
1.599 for some reason amatraz
1.599 they&;re
1.599 they&;re they&;re partially resistant but
1.599 the resistance is not
1.599 being fixed or it&;s not holding and i&;m
1.599 not sure why that is it must come at a
1.599 great cost to the mites or something and
1.599 so
1.599 the susceptible lights that are out
1.599 there out outnumber them so we&;re still
1.599 controlling them but
1.599 there are signs of
1.599 some level of resistance so amatez is
1.599 still working at the moment
1.599 are you finding a regional
1.599 resistance pockets of resistance across
1.599 the country so i worked in california
1.599 and tennessee and on the east coast here
1.599 along in maryland and along this coast
1.599 and
1.599 i haven&;t seen anything that i would
1.599 really call resistance
1.599 ramesh in oregon was comparing his mite
1.599 populations with those in alberta
1.599 and the mite populations in
1.599 oregon
1.599 were harder to kill than the ones in in
1.599 alberta but i don&;t know if they you
1.599 call them resistant or not and he was
1.599 getting he was getting bees from a lot
1.599 from california oregon and washington
1.599 state so he was getting a number of
1.599 beekeepers from the west coast moving in
1.599 to do uh i think onion and carrot
1.599 pollination so he was doing a
1.599 cross-section of about three states
1.599 and that work is ongoing somewhat
1.599 bees in uh canada coming in from i know
1.599 new zealand is part of it
1.599 new zealand and uh
1.599 chile yeah
1.599 so that may be that&;s certainly going to
1.599 be a factor that&;s true they get they
1.599 get they get fresh mites they get fried
1.599 okay
1.599 well
1.599 you&;re also keeping bees
1.599 i&;m keeping a few bees here so i moved
1.599 out of the washington d.c area it was a
1.599 high rent district i was uh glad to get
1.599 out of the uh
1.599 just it&;s very crowded it was a good
1.599 place to raise
1.599 boys a great school system and stuff but
1.599 uh i&;m on the eastern shore of maryland
1.599 it&;s called it&;s salisbury maryland this
1.599 town
1.599 we&;re halfway between the chesapeake bay
1.599 and the pacific and the atlantic ocean
1.599 so we&;re we&;re right in right in the
1.599 heart of call they call delmarva
1.599 delaware maryland and virginia but it&;s
1.599 a nice area
1.599 and my youngest son kevin and i are
1.599 keeping somewhere between 25 and 75
1.599 colonies it depends on what time you ask
1.599 me so
1.599 but uh yeah it&;s new and and i&;m trying
1.599 to develop into a small business for him
1.599 so he&;s uh he&;s taken really taken to
1.599 beekeeping lately none of the boys did
1.599 it first but uh lately kevin&;s kind of
1.599 taken to it and
1.599 we&;re running a few bees which is nice
1.599 it&;s fun it&;s
1.599 uh jeff you mentioned your guitars are
1.599 an escape well the bees for me are a
1.599 nice escape you get
1.599 have a bad day just go out and and work
1.599 bees and
1.599 it&;ll take your mind away from that
1.599 definitely so what are you what are you
1.599 doing with what are you doing with the
1.599 honey you&;re making
1.599 and are you doing any pollination
1.599 well so yeah we&;re doing doing a little
1.599 bit a little bit of pollination they
1.599 grow a lot of vine crops a lot of
1.599 watermelons etc and
1.599 a lot of beekeepers on the eastern shore
1.599 keep bees on trailers so it&;s just a
1.599 a trailer and i was lucky enough to link
1.599 up with oliver collins he&;s a commercial
1.599 beekeeper here who&;s downsizing from
1.599 3000 to you know 500 and i bought a few
1.599 of his trailers and uh i&;ve got i did a
1.599 little bit of pollination uh blueberries
1.599 and um pumpkins last year so you put 20
1.599 hives on a trailer you never have to
1.599 lift them and you just haul the trailer
1.599 to to the uh field and when it&;s done
1.599 you haul it back so yeah do a little bit
1.599 of pollination and mostly honey
1.599 production and we sell it local markets
1.599 here so we
1.599 sell and control the whole price line
1.599 and uh yep
1.599 which which when we get when we get to
1.599 april mundia we&;re talking about honey
1.599 fraud because that&;s a major issue
1.599 facing beekeepers worldwide and april
1.599 monday is active on that but i mean the
1.599 best thing you can do
1.599 for honey fraud or well educate the
1.599 consumer and have the consumer buy more
1.599 directly from the beekeeper and i know
1.599 that&;s not always possible but that&;s
1.599 the way to get rid of honey frog is know
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1.599 well you met you brought up the subject
1.599 apa monday and i know you
1.599 for the last four plus years you&;ve been
1.599 you&;ve had some role with them and that
1.599 just changed but what were you doing
1.599 with them uh the last four years or so
1.599 so um i was
1.599 the president of the be health
1.599 commission which we have about five
1.599 scientific commissions b biology b
1.599 health uh b products we work in all
1.599 different aspects of beekeeping and i
1.599 was the president of the be health
1.599 commission
1.599 so i worked on varroa and
1.599 afb yeah all the pests and diseases that
1.599 affect bees and we
1.599 you know you know most people know we
1.599 hold a big meeting every two years it
1.599 moves globally around the world and so
1.599 i was in charge of the scientific
1.599 program for be health for that part and
1.599 in this past year in montreal i was
1.599 elected president of the organization so
1.599 now i&;m more
1.599 doing more uh anyway more public
1.599 relations and more just across the board
1.599 trying to manage the organization and
1.599 and and help us serve beekeepers better
1.599 well i&;m gonna
1.599 apramundia isn&;t isn&;t
1.599 really well known in this country
1.599 and and
1.599 it&;s not really well known by me can you
1.599 just and give me a a matchbook cover
1.599 sketch of how it&;s admitted you know how
1.599 the administration works and filters
1.599 down so
1.599 and what does it do for me okay well
1.599 that&;s
1.599 so let me start with a little bit of
1.599 just a little bit of history i won&;t
1.599 give you the that&;s good yeah
1.599 it started it started out of um
1.599 bucharest romania in in the in the old
1.599 soviet union stuff and it was um a
1.599 publishing house and it was gathering
1.599 information on beekeeping and publishing
1.599 this thing called apiacta and then they
1.599 started holding this meeting this global
1.599 meeting mostly european-based but it was
1.599 uh
1.599 called april monday it started um
1.599 the first one was in
1.599 copenhagen denmark i think it was in
1.599 denmark um about 100 years ago so then
1.599 every second year they&;d have a big
1.599 international meeting well international
1.599 meant it really only was european and
1.599 then the americas and some other people
1.599 started getting involved became more
1.599 international um
1.599 it&;s
1.599 mostly just bringing beekeepers and
1.599 scientists together
1.599 to try to talk about common problems and
1.599 and and serve the industry there&;s a
1.599 huge trade show that goes along with it
1.599 um and it&;s a chance for like i said for
1.599 beekeepers from all over and scientists
1.599 from all over to come together and talk
1.599 for a week about common problems so
1.599 um luckily
1.599 you&;re right in north america it&;s not
1.599 as well known but the canadians have
1.599 always been involved in april monday and
1.599 they&;ve hosted two in
1.599 vancouver and then just recently
1.599 montreal but the american honey
1.599 producers uh have just joined and they
1.599 joined because of our work april
1.599 monday&;s work on honey fraud so i have
1.599 to give a shout out to norberto garcia
1.599 who&;s on our board
1.599 and he
1.599 is active in international honey markets
1.599 and trying to understand honey fraud and
1.599 so has the honey producers and the honey
1.599 producers have been after honey fraud uh
1.599 you know and adulteration for a long
1.599 time so
1.599 the american honey producers saw the
1.599 value in joining april mundia and so we
1.599 have a common theme there at least in
1.599 honey frog oh so i didn&;t give you much
1.599 about the administration so
1.599 sorry there&;s a there&;s a president and
1.599 a vice president
1.599 and there&;s an executive secretary and
1.599 he&;s in rome and he he kind of runs the
1.599 day-to-day operations of the thing we
1.599 have about 120 to 130
1.599 uh full members which are either
1.599 countries or major organizations within
1.599 those countries so you have to represent
1.599 the majority of beekeepers in the
1.599 country
1.599 or are the majority of beekeepers in a
1.599 region of a country so you can be a full
1.599 member there&;s a lot of associate
1.599 members smaller clubs and things like
1.599 that
1.599 and then you can
1.599 yeah and these are
1.599 the producers no they&;re
1.599 beekeeper organization so we represent
1.599 we represent
1.599 globally all the different beekeeping
1.599 organizations but within those are are
1.599 the beekeepers themselves so we&;re we&;re
1.599 the associate the international
1.599 association of beekeepers
1.599 association so we&;re we&;re the with the
1.599 head body that kind of pulls it all
1.599 together and our our flagship is the
1.599 meeting every two years
1.599 and but with
1.599 beyond that we host symposia in
1.599 different parts of the world on specific
1.599 problems like we just had one in the
1.599 philippines about two weeks ago
1.599 on um
1.599 stingless bees and people do manage
1.599 stingless bees little small thingless
1.599 bees that produce very small amounts of
1.599 honey but it has medicinal quality so
1.599 it&;s it&;s high value um so there&;s even
1.599 that kind of beekeeping but back to the
1.599 structure so we have a president vice
1.599 president executive secretary and then
1.599 we have these five to six scientific
1.599 commissions
1.599 and we have five regional commissions so
1.599 we have a one for the americas which is
1.599 north and south america and we have one
1.599 for europe uh the east africa and uh
1.599 australasia so we we have the regions of
1.599 the world represented by a by a
1.599 president from that region and uh to
1.599 bring the concerns of those people
1.599 forward to april mundia so anyway it&;s a
1.599 it&;s been an organization that was
1.599 mostly focused on this meeting
1.599 over the past
1.599 so many years and before that it was
1.599 publishing we were kim and you could
1.599 probably appreciate that you know being
1.599 associated with b culture
1.599 they published ap active for a long time
1.599 that
1.599 print form kind of fell out of favor and
1.599 uh
1.599 that we don&;t we don&;t do any printing
1.599 anymore but i&;m hoping that we&;re going
1.599 to change and get better in the
1.599 information exchange realm where we&;re
1.599 doing more just like you&;re doing here
1.599 digitally and and uh with video
1.599 streaming of some of our conference
1.599 information so that was what i
1.599 in my goals for the organization
1.599 i talked about three things
1.599 was diversity diversity of the
1.599 beekeepers the types of beekeepers and
1.599 the types of bees that we keep
1.599 so from apis malifa to stingless bees
1.599 you know just different kinds of bees
1.599 and the diversity of types of beekeeping
1.599 a very
1.599 traditional beekeeping and log hives all
1.599 the way up to modern you know mechanized
1.599 beekeeping
1.599 and then communication and i talked
1.599 about having our meeting part of our
1.599 meeting streamed so that people don&;t
1.599 have to go to the meeting you know and
1.599 be there in person they can stream it
1.599 from you know
1.599 from ireland or from africa and and be
1.599 involved in the meeting and i didn&;t
1.599 realize that you know we were about to
1.599 be hit by a
1.599 disruption to world to world trade and
1.599 commerce but
1.599 we just had our first um
1.599 zoom meeting of our executive comm
1.599 committee so i just set that up and we
1.599 just used zoom to meet across about you
1.599 know 12 time zones so um but but for the
1.599 organization for april monday and for
1.599 the meeting
1.599 i&;m hoping to create more digital
1.599 content for beekeepers around the world
1.599 to tune into so that that would be a
1.599 goal and the last part is just respect
1.599 for the bees we have to keep you know
1.599 that the bees themselves are what we&;re
1.599 all about you know keeping good bees
1.599 anyway that&;s a i know that was kind of
1.599 a long-winded uh aprimundia
1.599 sales pitch but it&;s a it&;s a challenge
1.599 because beekeepers vary all over the
1.599 globe but we try to represent them all
1.599 and we try to represent their interests
1.599 how often does the board meet so
1.599 we meet every may
1.599 we&;re on a two-year cycle so every may
1.599 the whole executive meets in rome
1.599 on a non-conference year we meet in rome
1.599 and on a conference here we meet in the
1.599 city where the meeting is going to occur
1.599 so last may we met in montreal and then
1.599 we came back in september we had the
1.599 meeting so this year well
1.599 this year we&;re going to have this is
1.599 good this year we&;re going to have a
1.599 virtual meeting
1.599 in may
1.599 on zoom
1.599 and cut down on transportation cost and
1.599 our carbon footprint and everything else
1.599 so we&;ll have a virtual meeting in may
1.599 via zoom
1.599 and then hopefully next may
1.599 we&;ll meet in russia in uffa russia
1.599 ufo russia is the site of 2021 our
1.599 meeting in 2021. so we&;d meet in may
1.599 there and then in the following fall we
1.599 would have the international meeting so
1.599 there&;s about we have 13 or 14
1.599 uh executive board members and we come
1.599 together
1.599 and you know discuss the business and
1.599 set the agendas and and work on the
1.599 scientific programs and things like that
1.599 for the meeting
1.599 jeff and i normally work mostly at most
1.599 three time zones i can&;t imagine trying
1.599 to organize 12.
1.599 so
1.599 well guess what guess what i&;m i&;m uh
1.599 you&;re right about north america has not
1.599 been as involved in april mundia
1.599 uh
1.599 i&;m so there&;s only
1.599 i&;m i&;m on the one one extreme of the
1.599 time zones
1.599 and the other is uh jody goldsworthy um
1.599 in australia and she&;s
1.599 she was she was tuning in at 10 o&;clock
1.599 and i was tuning in at 6 00 a.m
1.599 so and then we have this window of about
1.599 four hours where i&;m i&;m waking up and
1.599 she&;s she&;s you know but everyone else
1.599 is in the middle somewhere so it&;s um
1.599 we only have that one window because i i
1.599 don&;t really feel like getting up in the
1.599 middle of the night but it works it
1.599 works and we&;re and we&;re we&;re gonna
1.599 have to get used to it so
1.599 what i was gonna come back to
1.599 two of the biggest issues that we&;re
1.599 working on um one is just honey
1.599 adulteration and honey fraud
1.599 i mean that&;s a that&;s a huge issue i
1.599 mean that&;s that&;s one of our major
1.599 initiatives and um jeff before you go
1.599 further what&;s the definition of honey
1.599 fraud generally
1.599 it could be a lot of different things
1.599 but generally it&;s the addition
1.599 of some type of
1.599 uh
1.599 syrup that is not honey to to uh you
1.599 know to increase the volume and then and
1.599 increase lower the price and uh of the
1.599 of the
1.599 the weight so they add
1.599 rice syrup or some kind of corn syrup to
1.599 honey and hope it goes undetected
1.599 and if you can add it up to 15 or 20 or
1.599 30 percent of the honey
1.599 then you just um you just
1.599 increase your profit because the honey&;s
1.599 worth you know
1.599 let&;s say you know five dollars a kilo
1.599 and and the rice syrup is worth you know
1.599 30 cents a kilo or something so it&;s
1.599 it&;s often it is um
1.599 it&;s
1.599 the addition of the adulteration the
1.599 addition of other sugars that are that
1.599 are not really honey the other way that
1.599 we&;re worried about is not actually
1.599 letting the bees process like you&;re
1.599 just harvesting
1.599 unripened nectar that&;s and then just
1.599 um the bees haven&;t added the enzymes to
1.599 it and things like that and so they&;re
1.599 you&;re taking really raw nectar
1.599 extracting and drying it down and
1.599 calling it honey and to us the bees
1.599 the bees need to go through the process
1.599 of adding the enzymes you know lowering
1.599 the moisture
1.599 and then then it becomes honey there&;s
1.599 some issues in the tropics because
1.599 tropical honey can have high moisture
1.599 content above 18 above 23
1.599 so
1.599 we have to be able to dry honey at some
1.599 some point but we should let the bees
1.599 actually
1.599 mature it
1.599 and then we harvest it and there&;s a lot
1.599 of harvesting of immature honey and then
1.599 drying that down and calling it honey so
1.599 there&;s several ways that that honey
1.599 frog is going on recently there&;s been
1.599 reports in in popular science media that
1.599 there are some been some scientists
1.599 who have recreated the enzymes of a of a
1.599 bees uh a gut and can produce
1.599 uh uh you know
1.599 lab honey would that be considered if
1.599 they could produce that in a production
1.599 i would certainly hope that we would be
1.599 able to detect it and call it not honey
1.599 back to the american honey producers a
1.599 little bit because they&;ve been active
1.599 really they got an embargo world trade
1.599 organization they went to world wto and
1.599 said china is jumping and i have to call
1.599 it my name china&;s dumping honey at the
1.599 u.s market below below uh below market
1.599 below production cost
1.599 and the world trade organization agreed
1.599 with them that we got an embargo against
1.599 chinese honey for i think three years
1.599 well guess what happened to vietnamese
1.599 and some other countries their honey
1.599 production went through the roof so
1.599 that&;s another type of honey fraud where
1.599 you take
1.599 honey from a country it&;s banned because
1.599 of chlorine finacle or it&;s banned
1.599 because of some other thing and they
1.599 transship it and re-label it as you know
1.599 some other honey ukraine
1.599 there&;s issues with ukraine and
1.599 other i don&;t want to call out all the
1.599 countries but there&;s a huge issue with
1.599 the correct labeling of country of
1.599 origin and then and also in letting the
1.599 bees mature the honey and having it be
1.599 real
1.599 you know as we think of as real pure
1.599 natural honey one of the things that has
1.599 come out of this with the american honey
1.599 producers and others i&;m sure
1.599 is uh
1.599 finally the if the fda has created
1.599 something called a commercial item
1.599 description cid
1.599 that
1.599 uh goes way way way the the definition
1.599 that we have in honey of honey in this
1.599 country the official legal definition is
1.599 a syrupy substance
1.599 nectar collected by bees stored dried
1.599 and that&;s about it
1.599 what the cid does is that actually i&;m
1.599 sure you&;re aware of this it&;s a
1.599 description of honey that the government
1.599 uses when they are going to purchase
1.599 honey when the federal government&;s
1.599 going to purchase honey for their own
1.599 use
1.599 and they have this for every product
1.599 that they buy
1.599 a cid now we have one for honey and and
1.599 basically what it is it&;s it takes the
1.599 definition way beyond the syrupy sweet
1.599 substance
1.599 uh outlining the tests that it has to
1.599 pass and by what degree it has to pass
1.599 them and
1.599 various different
1.599 analyses that it goes through so
1.599 what the us is looking for is to have
1.599 this adopted so that when something
1.599 comes on shore
1.599 there are testing facilities available
1.599 and the honey gets tested and part of
1.599 this of course is that you you mentioned
1.599 mislabeling at source
1.599 some of that&;s going to be pollen
1.599 testing i&;m sure right yep yep
1.599 but guess what
1.599 they&;re getting so sophisticated they
1.599 there&;s another thing that happens
1.599 because you get antibiotic contamination
1.599 and stuff because you know
1.599 and then you ultra filter
1.599 the the honey so you can get some of
1.599 that out then they go back and add
1.599 pollen of whatever appropriate uh plant
1.599 that they want to save that the honey is
1.599 from so there&;s i mean there&;s some
1.599 fairly sophisticated honey fraud going
1.599 on out there
1.599 um
1.599 so i agree that the honey producers and
1.599 and other groups have been really active
1.599 apa mandia
1.599 we&;ve been working with codex then codex
1.599 happens to be based part of it&;s based
1.599 at fao in rome and we&;ve got a agreement
1.599 with them and we&;re working with codex
1.599 trying to get a better definition for
1.599 honey
1.599 and the other thing is we&;re working
1.599 with
1.599 interpol interpol you know tracking
1.599 really
1.599 yeah
1.599 because
1.599 honey fraud is number three on the list
1.599 it&;s for some reason it&;s milk i mean i
1.599 i can&;t milk is scary if you&;re
1.599 adulterating milk or not it&;s not real
1.599 milk milk olive oil i understand olive
1.599 oil i totally understand and then but
1.599 and then honey is number three on the
1.599 world market it&;s the number it&;s the
1.599 number three adult traded product on the
1.599 market uh milk olive oil and then and
1.599 then honey so interpol is interested and
1.599 they&;re they&;re looking at things like
1.599 where are these shipments originating
1.599 from and could they be real and things
1.599 like that because uh that&;s a good way
1.599 to pick up if all of a sudden you see
1.599 these spikes in
1.599 export
1.599 where they haven&;t been there before
1.599 then there&;s something going on they
1.599 didn&;t they didn&;t improve their
1.599 beekeeping that much in the last you
1.599 know yeah yeah they didn&;t have a major
1.599 nectar flow yeah
1.599 so
1.599 there&;s oh there&;s a wide range yeah i
1.599 applaud any effort to better define
1.599 honey and it&;d be nice if we had a
1.599 really nice tight international standard
1.599 but we don&;t i mean we have a
1.599 yeah we have codex has a definition but
1.599 it&;s not it&;s not stringent enough
1.599 well since the u.s imports 80 percent of
1.599 the honey we consume
1.599 we are we are the market of choice for
1.599 everybody that produces honey anywhere
1.599 and
1.599 one of the things that i&;ve been
1.599 investigating or not investigating but
1.599 but
1.599 become aware of is that
1.599 one of the nice things about producing
1.599 honey is if a country decides that they
1.599 want to get into this export market
1.599 it&;s fairly easy to train uh people to
1.599 keep bees in their country and one of
1.599 the big advantages is that you don&;t
1.599 have to own land
1.599 and and
1.599 and so i can be up i can be a
1.599 non-landowner and still produce an
1.599 agriculture commodity and the
1.599 government&;s going to pay me for it and
1.599 life just got a lot better for a lot of
1.599 people
1.599 hey you had you had a long association
1.599 maybe you&;re still associated with ai
1.599 root but you know where all the good
1.599 good clean waxes come it&;s all coming
1.599 out of africa africa right right
1.599 they practice the style of beekeeping
1.599 where it
1.599 primitive traditional whatever you want
1.599 to call it they&;re in natural areas
1.599 they&;re harvesting the wax and the comb
1.599 and the wax and honey at the same time
1.599 and they produce a lot of good quality
1.599 wax um
1.599 again i&;m gonna wear my apron monday i
1.599 have for a minute
1.599 we have a whole
1.599 section that is using bees for
1.599 development and that is exactly what you
1.599 just talked about
1.599 that bees can transform people&;s lives i
1.599 mean they can
1.599 you can not own land have 20 hives and
1.599 and you know and buy your house in in
1.599 certain parts of the world i mean you
1.599 know it&;s it&;s amazing what they can do
1.599 and and so we&;re we&;re using that and
1.599 we&;re working closely with
1.599 fao food and agricultural organization
1.599 of the united nations in rome and trying
1.599 to partner with them to increase the use
1.599 of bees for development because yeah
1.599 you&;re right there&;s a
1.599 there&;s a lot of untapped
1.599 nectar out there that could be utilized
1.599 and change people&;s lives
1.599 an international standard i i think you
1.599 hit it on the head the honey&;s got to be
1.599 the same everywhere
1.599 which would which would
1.599 make things better i think
1.599 i think there&;s another way because
1.599 people are going to they&;re going to
1.599 keep trying to sell this
1.599 uh artificially produced honey and this
1.599 this stuff with added things
1.599 i actually think there&;s a market for
1.599 that
1.599 if people want something that&;s honey
1.599 like just don&;t call it honey in other
1.599 words it&;s uh
1.599 call it you know
1.599 honey syrup or something but use some
1.599 other designation
1.599 and
1.599 and i wonder if we could ever get to a
1.599 day where there&;s
1.599 some kind of better traceability i mean
1.599 we always thought pollen would be you
1.599 know but you can filter that out and you
1.599 can add it back
1.599 but if there&;s some set of enzymes or
1.599 something that we can look for i know
1.599 you can look for things that if it&;s
1.599 ever been heated to any degree you can
1.599 look for things that have changed in it
1.599 but um
1.599 yeah a standard
1.599 and i don&;t know if we can figure a
1.599 traceability to trace it back to
1.599 zimbabwe or trace it back to you know
1.599 kansas you know and
1.599 well last
1.599 last year we did have eric winger from
1.599 truesource on the podcast and he and his
1.599 outfit have
1.599 are working on a method to to true
1.599 source it from
1.599 from audits and and seals
1.599 uh it seems like that&;s one option that
1.599 is
1.599 has some legs no that would be that
1.599 would be an option i guess what happens
1.599 is the volume goes up as you get into
1.599 these bigger and bigger volumes and
1.599 these large packers that that&;s where
1.599 the the
1.599 things start getting loose and uh and
1.599 then you end up with honey on the shelf
1.599 that you can&;t trust and we have to find
1.599 a way to correct that
1.599 i like i like
1.599 you know if you can convince that most
1.599 of the consumers to go look locally they
1.599 can find somebody that&;s labeling it
1.599 locally and hopefully they&;re you know
1.599 they&;re honest and you have to
1.599 what up and then make the krogers and
1.599 the safeways and and targets of the
1.599 world you know do do better
1.599 about their buying they&;re buying but
1.599 yeah well so when honey when honey is a
1.599 commodity honey nut cheerios and the
1.599 like
1.599 that&;s uh
1.599 it&;s tough to it&;s tough to to work with
1.599 at larger volume with
1.599 you know being used that way so yeah i
1.599 know
1.599 i&;m not sure so this is this is going to
1.599 be one of your goals as president of
1.599 april monday to
1.599 clean up the world&;s honey market
1.599 well
1.599 it&;s um it it&;s one of the one of the
1.599 things we&;ve been actively working on
1.599 and we recognize it and we&;re going to
1.599 continue to to work on it the other is
1.599 just for me it&;s just better
1.599 communication from april mundia and and
1.599 being more inclusive as far as global
1.599 beekeeping and trying to
1.599 let us work together better so yeah no i
1.599 mean i think honey fraud is one of the
1.599 major issues facing the industry and i
1.599 think we need to work to try to correct
1.599 it the best way we can just quick
1.599 question on on the beekeeper so this is
1.599 a beekeeper association association yeah
1.599 i think he&;s what you said so if an
1.599 individual me as a
1.599 beekeeper doesn&;t join epimodia i would
1.599 encourage my
1.599 your association to join
1.599 but you can actually join as an
1.599 individual member too and it
1.599 and you get that way you&;re at least
1.599 part of the you know the bigger group
1.599 you don&;t have much in the way the only
1.599 people who vote and we vote on where to
1.599 hold the next meeting and things like
1.599 that
1.599 are the full members and full members
1.599 are like the american beekeeping
1.599 federation the larger organizations that
1.599 represent the majority of beekeepers in
1.599 an area some of this is a whole country
1.599 sometimes this is just an area of a
1.599 country
1.599 all right so
1.599 yeah interested parties interested
1.599 beekeepers are free to join and yep but
1.599 the king&;s attend conferences yeah the
1.599 kansas beekeepers or even individual
1.599 beekeepers can join and join new york
1.599 all right good yeah
1.599 well you&;re gonna put that uh when we
1.599 wrap this up that&;ll be on our web page
1.599 how to where to go to make that happen
1.599 right yeah i&;ll put i&;ll do my
1.599 link to the april monday website and
1.599 something good
1.599 yep
1.599 yep we&;ll have that up on our show notes
1.599 and uh
1.599 additional information about apomondia
1.599 and maybe even some of your research
1.599 all they need to do is go out to google
1.599 scholar and they can find a lot of
1.599 information and and work research you&;ve
1.599 done that&;s been an honor to sit here
1.599 and talk to you well i&;m still i&;m still
1.599 doing a little bit i so i i kind of
1.599 opened with this thing this comment but
1.599 people say oh you retired i&;m like i
1.599 don&;t know what&;s that&;s not the right
1.599 word i&;m i changed what i was doing and
1.599 uh
1.599 i&;m i&;m still doing research in a couple
1.599 of different fronts uh actually i didn&;t
1.599 talk about it i got a small project in
1.599 france
1.599 i&;m working on a small i&;m supposed to
1.599 leave in two weeks to go back to france
1.599 i&;m working on a project with apis
1.599 melipper milifera
1.599 own uh
1.599 the old german dark beer they call it
1.599 just the dark bee european bee
1.599 and there&;s a
1.599 is existing there without treatment the
1.599 beekeepers don&;t treat and they have a
1.599 lot of while it&;s on an island it
1.599 happens to be on an island so it&;s
1.599 probably isolation that&;s helping them
1.599 but i&;ve been following it for a year
1.599 and a half and it&;s existing without my
1.599 treatment at all so not that we can all
1.599 do that but it&;s uh it&;s interesting so
1.599 i&;ve i&;ve got several different research
1.599 projects that i&;m continuing and uh that
1.599 and now this april monday i had and then
1.599 trying to keep my own bees from swarming
1.599 i&;m i&;m busy enough yeah
1.599 well jeff this has been fun and it was
1.599 good to
1.599 talk with you again i
1.599 definitely hope that you can come back
1.599 after some time as being april mundy a
1.599 president and give us give us a a a a a
1.599 broader view
1.599 a time-lapse view of how things are
1.599 going and where you want to go next
1.599 we&;d love to have you come back i&;d love
1.599 to be back yes all right
1.599 good job thank you jeff hey thank you
1.599 jeff take care now
1.599 that was really good talking to jeff um
1.599 you know i i learned
1.599 in all of our podcasts and i hope our
1.599 listeners do too i i learned a lot and i
1.599 what i found i mean the the
1.599 he&;s doing a lot of great work but what
1.599 i found really interesting what i really
1.599 keyed in on
1.599 was the the queen limit and the
1.599 viability and and how important that is
1.599 to
1.599 the success of the queens that we
1.599 receive in the mail i mean so there was
1.599 some discussion on uh the the celsius
1.599 temperature range so i went ahead and
1.599 using the power of the internet
1.599 i did the conversions so he said the
1.599 lower conver the lower uh let&;s see no
1.599 i&;m sorry the upper queen limit was 39
1.599 to 40 degrees celsius any any greater
1.599 than an hour and if you convert that
1.599 the upper limit is 102.2 degrees to 104
1.599 degrees fahrenheit 102 yeah that&;s
1.599 pretty warm 102. and then he said the
1.599 lower limit
1.599 was
1.599 uh
1.599 i think it was eight to ten wasn&;t it
1.599 yeah eight to ten thank you yeah eight
1.599 to ten degrees celsius and that&;s 39
1.599 degrees to 40 degrees
1.599 uh fahrenheit so that&;s i mean it&;s a
1.599 very narrow range and and um
1.599 you can really see where there&;s a lot
1.599 of room for
1.599 exposure to this this shipment thing has
1.599 been a bugaboo
1.599 uh
1.599 20 years ago they were looking at it
1.599 they were putting putting thermometer
1.599 you know recording devices in queen in
1.599 boxes shipping queens and they were
1.599 finding out that there was
1.599 an issue and and you know the post
1.599 office is down to the point where the
1.599 only thing they will ship are bees and
1.599 baby chicks
1.599 so so i can see where
1.599 you know
1.599 it&;s hard to have environmental controls
1.599 in in that sort of environment so
1.599 um
1.599 i can see where there&;s that&;s going to
1.599 cause some problems you know one one of
1.599 the things
1.599 that
1.599 i wanted to talk about or i wanted to
1.599 mention with jeff
1.599 and and you remember our discussion with
1.599 jonathan lundgren
1.599 where researchers became farmers
1.599 here we have researchers becoming
1.599 beekeepers and and jeff is in the real
1.599 world of pulling trailers and lifting
1.599 hives and worrying about pollination
1.599 fees and selling honey and he&;s getting
1.599 that perspective of
1.599 what the real
1.599 world of beekeeping is about and how to
1.599 apply what he&;s doing to that part of
1.599 the that part of the industry
1.599 i i don&;t know a whole lot of people
1.599 that are doing that and i think it&;s i
1.599 think it&;s going to be really good
1.599 from his perspective and for our gain
1.599 and what he&;s what he&;s able to find out
1.599 and apply to
1.599 real research
1.599 the other thing i like the other thing i
1.599 liked was his goal you know zappamundia
1.599 president of april mundia what do we
1.599 know about april monday well i hope now
1.599 we know a lot more i do
1.599 i go back a lot of years with april
1.599 monday when i was chairman of the board
1.599 of eas and there
1.599 they weren&;t warm and fuzzy
1.599 and and
1.599 i looked at i looked at aprimundia kind
1.599 of three steps back
1.599 most of my career in it because they
1.599 just haven&;t reached out a lot of
1.599 friendly
1.599 uh
1.599 a lot of friendly hands it&;s really good
1.599 that jeff&;s part of this now to get the
1.599 u.s and april mundia on a much better
1.599 relationship i really like his goals
1.599 better communication
1.599 april monday really has a lot of good
1.599 information at the you know a lot of
1.599 resources at their beck and call and
1.599 they can share it and
1.599 now with him he&;s looking at digital
1.599 communication and and you know
1.599 conferences on zoom and whatever
1.599 yeah um i see i see apomondia really
1.599 stepping up and joining the rest of the
1.599 world or the us and the april monday are
1.599 getting together and doing a lot more
1.599 together
1.599 which can only be good
1.599 they&;ve got a lot of resources and we&;ve
1.599 got a lot of resources
1.599 and then i&;m really encouraged about his
1.599 about his goals on on uh chasing honey
1.599 fraud you know we did uh
1.599 eric with uh with true source
1.599 and you know that&;s a good step in the
1.599 right direction with with uh in an
1.599 international
1.599 uh uh take on on honey fraud and the
1.599 things that they&;re looking at and the
1.599 project the product
1.599 i&;ll get it right yeah the projects that
1.599 they&;ve got planned in
1.599 what they&;re looking for and how to find
1.599 it and how to end it
1.599 uh can only be good for american
1.599 beekeepers so i&;m really really
1.599 encouraged with uh jeff taking over i&;m
1.599 glad that the u.s uh american honey
1.599 producers and april monday are shaking
1.599 hands and i look for this being really
1.599 really profitable for global beekeeping
1.599 it sure sounds like it&;s a step in the
1.599 right direction i was surprised with him
1.599 saying that
1.599 some of these
1.599 bad actors are
1.599 hyper filtering the honey and then
1.599 adding
1.599 the
1.599 sugar syrup or the syrup to it and then
1.599 adding pollen back into it to
1.599 oh my god that sounds like
1.599 anyways that&;s
1.599 well you know that&;s quite a challenge
1.599 it&;s quite a challenge the guy that we
1.599 talked to on honey fraud earlier he says
1.599 there&;s no basement on price and there&;s
1.599 no ceiling on the amount of fraud that
1.599 people will commit so
1.599 uh jeff just kind of pointed that out
1.599 again
1.599 um you know 75 percent of the honey we
1.599 eat consume in this country is imported
1.599 so we&;re we&;re the market of choice
1.599 i was glad to hear him though talk about
1.599 his be their bees for development
1.599 program and getting people started
1.599 if they can get that regulated so that
1.599 the honey they produce is the honey we
1.599 get
1.599 that&;ll be a big improvement um and and
1.599 you know
1.599 it&;s win-win win
1.599 you know the farmer wins the country
1.599 wins the u.s consumer wins
1.599 i see it as being a good thing i i hope
1.599 it pans out
1.599 92. well they&;ve got a good good lead
1.599 there at the epimony with jeff pettis at
1.599 the front
1.599 so all right well that about wraps it up
1.599 for this episode of beekeeping today
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1.599 you want to mention kim well i think
1.599 that does it jeff i got to go check bees
1.599 yeah get out there while the sun is
1.599 shining
1.599 take care all right you too
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